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Ever wonder what Cat Stevens has been up to lately? He had this to say about the WTC.

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whipsmart September 25th, 2001
that's amazing... I was just thinking a dew moments ago "Hey, what's Cat Stevens up to these days...?"


dlbags September 25th, 2001
Um..he hate's being called Cat Stevens doesn't he?

Anyway, I knew most of that- about Islam, as stated in a post a Syrian man taught me about Islam and it's beauty...but it's good that more famous Muslims are coming forward.

Too bad he(Cat) sucks now...heh, had to get that jab in.

i September 25th, 2001
this is the man who supported the death sentence passed on salman rushdie for writing a book that was disrespectful of islam.

chaizzilla October 19th, 2001
everybody's got their trigger points. for a nation of God we ouselves have been invoking and promising to carry forth a fair number of the Seven Deadly Sins by name, in the name of God, lately. forgivable, considering this country just voted in a guy with the lowest IQ of all presidents in the last 50 years, and less than half of his predecessor. go, america.

I'll give the [Cat Stevens] the benefit of the doubt as to what the original words in [innocent] were in his quote above in order to have something substantial to riff off, though I'm sure there are less peaceful statements to be found in the holy book of his faith. Here's some quotes that may be totally out of context, and hopefully i'm not spreading fabrications to catch the eye of a lazy web browseur as myself (i really should get a canonical copy of this stuff if i'm going to use it, i know):

"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of
the Torah." -- Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5

"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands." -- Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b

"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless [non-Jews], is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." -- Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772

"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts." -- Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

there's a buncha crap like this in the Christian bible, too. even creepier is how the folks at Nicea decided to ditch many potential texts that would have made the holy book of Christianity a lot groovier.

wanna know what i think? sure you do. religion, especially fundamentalism, irritates me. i follow a practice that i try to take at face value rather than needing make into a faith to trust, though in wierd or harder times it's certainly veered somewhat unproductvely into the territory of becoming religion. i'm not free of all the idiocies i often rant against. if i was i doubt i'd have the ability to empathise, compassion requires belief that something's less than perfect, a paradox against a basic tenet of my practice, that all is perfect, as is. how do you deal with a paradox?

i do not believe there such a thing as inherent evil in the world. when these oversized brains of ours start churning in ways that make us our own worst enemies, we can manifest what many call evil. i'm stubborn and prefer to use a bunch of other perjoratives when i don't like what i see; to really believe in evil would replace pragmatism with fundamentalism in of the decisions i make as to what to do with my resources, who i try to help, who i am sad to see propogating their own internal hell (whether they act out of feeling it or simply from the numbness against it) on others. i've worked hard to reverse the effect of my culture to call things "evil". "hate" is another one i haven't done as well with but i'm working on it, fortunately for my endeavour there are the words "detest" and "loathe" that sound nice and nasty but don't mean the same thing as "hate". to try and get to a point, i believe we are *all* innocent, that what people call evil is unfortunate nurture, not nature. despite this universal innocence; i intentionally choose to limit where i do and do not put my efforts -- i'm uninterested in martyring the enjoyment of my own life and love for others, even while i know i benefit from those who have.


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i October 20th, 2001
i see evil as an adjective as opposed to a noun.

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chaizzilla October 20th, 2001
hee, good comeback. i still don't believe in it, but i get your meaning.

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i October 20th, 2001
btw, i added you. you look like a good read :)

chaizzilla October 19th, 2001

this is important because as a world, i believe we could so easily wipe out this thing we call evil, we simply, as individuals, choose to not do so. responsibility, all it means is "able to respond" -- this means EVERYONE is responsible, whether they believe it or not, and EVERYONE acts responsibly (try not to dilute this with the ok what if someone's been knocked unconscious hypotheses b/c the point unravels into uselessness unless you take it at face value), whether they understand the ramification of that simple fact or not.

anyway, big deal if he supported the killing of rushdie, he could have been flying one of those planes and he's still got a point. some dufus here in seattle was caught pouring gasoline on a muslim center shortly after the 11th and when confronted, started shooting. can you say DUH? DUH sounds relatively harmless compared to "evil", n'est-ce pas? trust me, it carries a lot of the same emotional ammo.

one last scrap

chaizzilla October 19th, 2001
yea, i know we have a coffee-junkie problem up here in seattle (i'm not a coffee drinker), but i don't think this is a seattle-specific mentality:

Seattle and much of the nation are pouring out their hearts to the Tacoma woman who survived a suicidal leap off the Ship Canal Bridge Tuesday amid shouts of "jump" from passing motorists.

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